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03/30/2016 03:15 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE

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+= HB 372 OMNIBUS INSURANCE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
*+ HB 281 REAL ESTATE BROKER LICENSURE REQS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
*+ HB 290 EXTENDING THE REAL ESTATE COMMISSION TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 290 Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 214 REPEAL WORKERS' COMP APPEALS COMMISSION TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 214(L&C) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
         HB 214-REPEAL WORKERS' COMP APPEALS COMMISSION                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:23:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON announced  that the first order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO.  214, "An Act repealing  the Workers' Compensation                                                               
Appeals  Commission;  relating to  decisions  and  orders of  the                                                               
Alaska Workers'  Compensation Board;  relating to  superior court                                                               
jurisdiction  over  appeals  from  Alaska  Workers'  Compensation                                                               
Board  decisions and  orders; repealing  Rules 201.1,  401.1, and                                                               
501.1, Alaska  Rules of Appellate  Procedure, and  amending Rules                                                               
202(a),  204(a) -  (c),  210(e), 508(g),  601(b),  602, and  603,                                                               
Alaska  Rules  of  Appellate  Procedure;  and  providing  for  an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:24:09 PM4                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
LAURA STIDOLPH, staff to Representative  Kurt Olson, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, speaking on behalf  of Representative Olson, sponsor                                                               
of HB  214, introduced the  proposed committee substitute  for HB
214,  [labeled  29-LS0854\P], noting  that  the  bill is  at  the                                                               
request  of  the  commissioner  of  the  Department  of  Labor  &                                                               
Workforce Development.   At the previous hearing  on 3/14/16, the                                                               
Alaska Court System requested changes  bringing back the original                                                               
language from  the Workers' Compensation  Act - enacted  prior to                                                               
the   establishment   of   the  Worker's   Compensation   Appeals                                                               
Commission in 2005 - and  adding language related to the transfer                                                               
of files to the Alaska Court System.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:25:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HUGHES  moved  to adopt  the  proposed  committee                                                               
substitute  (CS)  for  HB   214,  labeled  29-LS0854\P,  Wallace,                                                               
3/21/16, as the working document.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:25:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON objected for discussion purposes.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. STIDOLPH paraphrased the following  summary of changes for HB
214,  page  3, lines  6-31,  and  page  4, lines  1-11  [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5. AS 23.30                                                                                                        
          Page 3, Lines 6-31 and Page 4, Lines 1-11                                                                             
          Delete all the material and insert original                                                                           
          language from the Workers' Compensation Act (AS                                                                       
          23.30.125) from 2004 prior to the establishment                                                                       
          of the WCAC.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. STIDOLPH  said the proposed  change to  Section 5 was  at the                                                               
request of  the Alaska Court System  to return power back  to the                                                               
superior  court.   She  continued  to page  5,  lines 24-26,  and                                                               
paraphrased  from  the  following summary  of  changes  [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 12. Transitional Provisions                                                                                        
          Page 5, Lines 24-26 (a)                                                                                               
          Delete all material after "shall" and insert "be                                                                      
          transferred to the superior court in the judicial                                                                     
          district where the original claim was filed,                                                                          
          under AS 22.10.020 and Rules 604(b) and 609,                                                                          
          Alaska Rules of Appellate Procedure.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          Page 5, Line 30                                                                                                       
          After "June 1, 2016" insert "within 30 days after                                                                     
          the date that the board decision becomes final."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          Page 6, Lines 1-17                                                                                                    
          Delete all material in (c) and (d) and replace                                                                        
          with new language.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COLVER asked  for the time period  available for a                                                               
party to appeal after a decision is made.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  STIDOLPH said  on  or  [before December  1,  2016], a  party                                                               
seeking review  may file  an appeal or  petition for  review with                                                               
the supreme court as stated in [Section 12, subsection (c)].                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:29:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COLVER  asked for clarification that  an appeal of                                                               
a decision  by the Workers'  Compensation Board (board)  would be                                                               
filed within 30 days.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:29:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. STIDOLPH said, "It's ... thirty  days after the date that the                                                               
board decision  becomes final."   She continued  to page  6, line                                                               
22,  and   paraphrased  the  summary  of   changes,  as  follows:                                                               
[original punctuation provided]                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section 13. Terms of Commissioners                                                                                         
          Page 6, Line 22                                                                                                       
          Remove "February 20, 2017" and insert "December                                                                       
          31, 2016."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section 14. Conditional Effect                                                                                             
          Page 6, Line 25                                                                                                       
          Insert "CONDITIONAL EFFECT. This Act takes effect                                                                     
          only if secs. 8 and 10 of this Act receive the                                                                        
          two-thirds majority vote of each house required                                                                       
       by art. IV, sec. 15, Constitution of the State of                                                                        
          Alaska.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  questioned whether HB 214  exactly returns                                                               
legislation to the language before changes were made in 2005.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. STIDOLPH said yes.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:31:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON  removed his  objection.    There being  no  further                                                               
objection, Version P was before the committee.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HUGHES asked  why the  act takes  effect June  1,                                                               
2016.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. STIDOLPH was unsure.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:32:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NANCY  MEADE, General  Counsel, Administrative  Staff, Office  of                                                               
the Administrative  Director, Alaska  Court System,  informed the                                                               
committee  the bill  reverts  the appeals  procedure  to that  in                                                               
2005,  and the  Alaska Court  System sought  the same  wording as                                                               
existed  in  2005,  so  that all  case  precedents  would  remain                                                               
applicable,  and   to  streamline   case  decision-making.     In                                                               
addition,  the  transitional  provisions ensure  that  the  files                                                               
transferred from the Department  of Labor & Workforce Development                                                               
(DLWD) are in the proper format.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:34:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANNA  LATHAM, Legislative  Liaison, Office  of the  Commissioner,                                                               
DLWD, in  response to Representative Hughes'  question, responded                                                               
that DLWD  requested the effective  date to  be June 1,  2016, so                                                               
that  the Workers'  Compensation Appeals  Commission (commission)                                                               
would have until November 1, to finalize cases.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON questioned  whether an  aggrieved party                                                               
would have  until November to  file an appeal to  the commission,                                                               
or if they could wait and appeal to the superior court.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MEADE  stated that  after  June  1,  an  appeal of  a  final                                                               
decision of  the commission  would be  submitted to  the superior                                                               
court;  furthermore,  anything  pending with  the  commission  in                                                               
November will  be transferred to  the court.   In response  to an                                                               
earlier  question from  Representative  Colver,  she pointed  out                                                               
that proposed Section  5, page 3, lines 6-10,  clarifies that the                                                               
decision of the  commission becomes final on its  31st day, after                                                               
which an appeal  can be accepted.  In  response to Representative                                                               
Josephson, she  said the commission  will not accept  new appeals                                                               
after June 1.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COLVER   assumed  filed  decisions   are  written                                                               
orders.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEADE said yes.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COLVER suggested that during  the 31 days there is                                                               
an opportunity  for a  party to  ask for  partial reconsideration                                                               
before the order is final.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:38:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARIE  MARKS,  Director,  Central Office,  Division  of  Workers'                                                               
Compensation,  DLWD, answered  that  a decision  by the  Workers'                                                               
Compensation  Board is  issued in  a written  format and  becomes                                                               
effective when signed  and served on all parties.   At that time,                                                               
a  prospective  appellant  has  14  days to  ask  the  board  for                                                               
reconsideration, and 30  days to appeal its decision  to a higher                                                               
power.   If the board  takes no  action, the power  to reconsider                                                               
ends, and she opined that in  the proposed version, "if you don't                                                               
reach that 30-day window by June  first, you need to go ahead and                                                               
seek appeal  with the superior court.   So, it's June  first, and                                                               
you have  to reach your  30-day window before June  first, that's                                                               
my understanding of the working draft."                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   COLVER  questioned   if   a   party  asked   for                                                               
reconsideration  within the  14-day  period,  whether that  would                                                               
stay the 30-day period for appeal.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. MARKS  said no,  the periods  proceed at the  same time.   In                                                               
further  response to  Representative Colver,  she said  the board                                                               
must take action  on reconsideration within the  14-day period by                                                               
contacting the  parties, and  if no  action is  taken, that  is a                                                               
denial of reconsideration.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COLVER   observed  that  the  board   process  is                                                               
unchanged,  except  that the  appeal  would  go to  the  superior                                                               
court.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. MARKS agreed.   She added that every  decision issued informs                                                               
the  parties  of  their  right  to  ask  for  reconsideration  or                                                               
modification; the  only change made  by the  proposed legislation                                                               
is that  the appeal would  go to  the superior court  rather than                                                               
the commission.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:42:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX inquired  as to  how many  cases would  be                                                               
caught in the transition brought about by the legislation.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEADE  was assured  there would  be about  six cases  or less                                                               
pending before the commission, but not resolved.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX posited  if a  case is  not resolved,  the                                                               
parties must submit new briefs.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MEADE  acknowledged  there  may be  some  delay  during  the                                                               
transition process;  however, parties would not  have to re-brief                                                               
because  the  commission will  provide  documents  in the  proper                                                               
form.   She said  she anticipates working  with DLWD  to minimize                                                               
delay.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COLVER  inquired as  to whether  there still  is a                                                               
hearing officer  who hears  the initial  request for  benefits or                                                               
compensation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. MARKS  explained that  a board  decision is  made by  a board                                                               
panel consisting  of two or three  members:  one chair,  who is a                                                               
staff  attorney;  one  labor  representative;  and  one  industry                                                               
representative.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:46:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COLVER  related his experience that  attorney fees                                                               
were a time-consuming issue.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MARKS said  the fees  awarded at  the board  level follow  a                                                               
statute that provides for actual  attorney fees when restrictions                                                               
are met.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEADE directed  attention to the bill on page  4, lines 9-11,                                                               
which read:                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     (g)  A  court  may  not  make an  award  of  costs  and                                                                    
     attorney  fees against  an  injured  worker unless  the                                                                    
     court  finds that  the  worker's  position on  judicial                                                                    
     review was  frivolous or  unreasonable or  the judicial                                                                    
     review was sought in bad faith                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEADE said subsection (g)  is the statutory guidance given to                                                               
the courts on  how to award attorney fees.   Generally on appeal,                                                               
the court has different provisions than at the board level.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MARKS restated  that  with exceptions,  at  the board  level                                                               
attorney fees are full, actual, and reasonable.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEADE recalled there was  much litigation about attorney fees                                                               
in workers' compensation  cases at the superior  court level, and                                                               
prior case decisions will be effective.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COLVER  stated that  subsection  (g)  was also  a                                                               
protection for the worker.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEADE indicated yes.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COLVER gave  an example  of a  case in  which the                                                               
injured  worker  prevailed and  asked,  "and  then the  insurance                                                               
company,  the workers'  comp  carrier, then  would  be liable  to                                                               
cover the injured worker's fees, right?"                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. MARKS  advised that the  board will award reasonable  fees to                                                               
be paid to the employee's attorney  on the issue(s) on which they                                                               
prevail,  and  those fees  are  a  compensation benefit,  so  the                                                               
entity that pays compensation benefits would be responsible.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COLVER   asked  for  an  indication   of  whether                                                               
attorney fees are a big issue.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:51:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANDY HEMENWAY,  Chair, Workers' Compensation  Appeals Commission,                                                               
Anchorage  Office,  Division   of  Workers'  Compensation,  DLWD,                                                               
advised that for cases that  were appealed from the commission to                                                               
the supreme court, attorney fees are  a common - but not the most                                                               
common -  subject for litigation  beyond the  appeals commission.                                                               
The experience  at the  appeals commission  is that  it is  not a                                                               
major subject in terms of the amount of fees.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  asked whether  attorneys are  granted full                                                               
reasonable fees before the appeals commission.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.   HEMENWAY  said   the  same   standards  apply   before  the                                                               
commission, as apply before the board.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX asked  about  attorney  fees garnered  for                                                               
cases before the superior court.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEADE will provide an answer to the committee.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON  said  the  issue  can  be  addressed  in  the  next                                                               
committee of referral, the House Judiciary Standing Committee.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HUGHES asked what  differs between the language in                                                               
HB 214,  and the  related statute  prior to  the changes  made in                                                               
2005.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEADE said Section 5,  subsection (a) provides timelines that                                                               
are slightly different, but clearer.   On page 3, lines 11-31 are                                                               
copied from the  2005 law; on page 4, lines  5-11 are subsections                                                               
which did  not appear  in the  2005 law, and  that were  added by                                                               
DLWD.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:57:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   OLSON  opened   public   testimony  on   HB  214;   after                                                               
ascertaining  no  one wished  to  testify,  public testimony  was                                                               
closed.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:58:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HUGHES  moved to  report the  committee substitute                                                               
(CS) for  HB 214, Version  29-LS0854\P, Wallace, 3/21/16,  out of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal  notes.   There  being  no  objection, CSHB  214(L&C)  was                                                               
reported out of the House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                

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HB290 ver W.pdf HL&C 3/30/2016 3:15:00 PM
HB 290
HB290 Sponsor Statement.pdf HL&C 3/30/2016 3:15:00 PM
HB 290
HB290 Fiscal Note-DCCED-CBPL-03-25-16.pdf HL&C 3/30/2016 3:15:00 PM
HB 290
HB290 Supporting Documents-2015 Sunset Audit.pdf HL&C 3/30/2016 3:15:00 PM
HB 290
HB290 Supporting Documents-2015 Audit Summary.pdf HL&C 3/30/2016 3:15:00 PM
HB 290
HB281 ver A.pdf HL&C 3/30/2016 3:15:00 PM
HB 281
HB281 Sponsor Statement.pdf HL&C 3/30/2016 3:15:00 PM
HB 281
HB281 Sectional Analysis.pdf HL&C 3/30/2016 3:15:00 PM
HB 281
HB281 Fiscal Note-DCCED-CBPL-02-19-16.pdf HL&C 3/30/2016 3:15:00 PM
HB 281
HB281 Supporting Documents-Letter Alaska Real Estate Commission 01-15-15.pdf HL&C 3/30/2016 3:15:00 PM
HB 281
HB281 Supporting Documents-Letter Alaska Real Estate Commission 10-27-15.pdf HL&C 3/30/2016 3:15:00 PM
HB 281
HB281 Supporting Documents-Letter Alaska Association of Realtors.pdf HL&C 3/30/2016 3:15:00 PM
HB 281
HB281 Supporting Document-Pre-licensing Ed and Experience Matrix.pdf HL&C 3/30/2016 3:15:00 PM
HB 281
HB281 Opposing Documents-Letter Matt Steele.pdf HL&C 3/30/2016 3:15:00 PM
HB 281
HB281 Opposing Documents-Email Matt Steele 03-14-16.pdf HL&C 3/30/2016 3:15:00 PM
HB 281
HB281 Draft Proposed Amendment (AS08.88.172(e)).pdf HL&C 3/30/2016 3:15:00 PM
HB 281
HB281 Draft Proposed Amendment A.2.pdf HL&C 3/30/2016 3:15:00 PM
HB 281